DISQUS

Keith · 11 months ago

And where will this argument end? If you drive a car and get in an accident are you engaging in risky behavior and this should be your nickel. If your kid skateboards and falls and breaks his wrist, we shouldn't have to pay for his risky behavior? How about skiing? Since I don't ski, should I pay for the injuries that occur from the many skiing accidents? Should we exempt professional athletes, especially the ones who bang into each other on a football filed for their risky behavior?

I understand your point, but I don't know who draws the line and where it gets drawn.

Alexy · 11 months ago

Keith being alive involves risk, everything we do are related to risk, BUT IF YOU ARE TOLD THAT YOU CAN REDUCE 70 OF LETAL INJURIES AND COMPLICATIONS BY USING SEATBELTS AND YOU DONT, we are missing a word in here PREVENTION what is cheaper to prevent or to try limiting the damage once its established, thats, if its even possible. the line is drawn by the law, it is different if you have a car accident cause you made a human mistake, you got hit by a car at normal speed not drunk, than being drunk on the middle of the night at high speed, like a crazy man who doesnt care about life. i guess happy point its totally clear, the thing is people lack of RESPONSABILITY, this is common sense, a custom.
there is a clear benefit on recreational activities such as ski, soccer which is different from being drunk.

JustCallMeJo · 11 months ago

*applause* to Happy.

I appreciate Keith's point, but I just don't see helmets and seatbelts as a sliding scale to throwing my civil liberties to hell. (The last eight years did that well enough.)

I argued with a friend who motorcycles without a helmet about how stupid and irresponsible I thought his 'decision' was. He said if he gets into an accident, then he won't live through it, but if he wears a helmet he will live and be 'crippled'.

I told him that in the modern world, we interfere with such species-saving mechanisms like natural selection all the time. Chances are excellent he'll live and be ventilated and drooling.

What do I know, I'm just a nurse who's actually taken care of SCI and TBI injuries?
/jo

The Happy Hospitalist · 11 months ago

The entity paying the bills gets to draw the line.

It couldn't be any clearer than that.

Anonymous · 11 months ago

Dr Happy~~~~May I hold your coat whilst you proclaim this message far and wide...please??? You just quoted my favorite nursing rant verbatim..do what you want, just don't make me or anyone else pay for, either with money or our time and talent. If one is over 21 and of (clinically) sound mind, sign a waiver for EMS and all health care services, and ride your ATV drunk through the mountains in the dark in January to your lil' hearts delight, sugar!!! Fawningly, Pattie, RN

NEO-CONDUIT · 11 months ago

Yeah I can see your point.
Damn all those meds though. I mean you wouldn't need to eat would you.
Sad so very sad.
Prevention is better than cure.
Yet fate kicks in some how doesn't it. You could have 30 people down a highway all doing the same thing (no seatbelt) yet only one pulls the short straw.
Our problem is free will.

Anonymous · 11 months ago

QD is a nono, sir. Somebody might confuse it with "shove pills in patient's mouth every 5 minutes throughout the day". It would be an honest mistake.

sarah · 11 months ago

I counted at least 6 different poo medications.

I am baffled.